Wednesday, April 18, 2007

WEEK SIX: Questions, Answers and Discussion - Part Three

Derek asked :

2 questions about prayer:

1. In the early days I used to think davvening meant the act of swaying during prayer. I now know better, but is there a name for the swaying?

2. I am curious about the rationale for swaying. I tell people it is a way to increase concentration, but I have always felt something else (though I've not heard anyone day it). I feel as though I am repeatedly bowing to Adonai. I enjoy this act of devotion. Is that an element of the swaying that anyone speaks of?



Authors are not agreed or certain about the etymology of “davvening.” One suggestion is that it is related to the LATIN “divinus.” However, as for the swaying, it is called “shuckling.” Two descriptions of its purpose come to mind from my reading: One is that it is a way of actualizing “let all my bones rejoice” and/or “Let all that is within me bless His Holy Name.” Another is that it has to do with shifting one’s center of gravity while praying—it helps with bodily comfort and longevity in the standing position. I think Jordan Lee Wagner of “The Syngaogue Survival Kit” is the author of the latter explanation.

As for Paul’s question concerning the definition of ‘holiness” and its relationship to “spirituality,” I was thinking of this while walking to the subway here in NYC where I am today finishing a three day visit with my oldest son. How’s this?” “Holiness is presenting oneself as a living sacrifice to Hashem in all ways always.” “Spirituality is the consideration, discussion, study, and pursuit of means toward that end.” Just as there were prescribed ways that different sacrifices were presented in the Older Testament, so the prescribed pathway of holiness differs for different people-groups. Particularly, the pathway mapped out for Israel is different (but overlapping) with that of the nations.

Of course, other communities would define holiness and spirituality differently, and generically, both terms could be otherwise defined. However, these are the definitions I am proposing for us and our context.

These definitions are in addition to those presented in the Extended Course Description and other documents, lectures, comments in this course. However, thanks Paul for the question. I like this current approach you evoked and would suggest to all of us, that as we devote ourselves to the study of ANY worthwhile pursuit, it is a good idea to from time to time update our definitions—it is a good exercise in assessing and coalescing thought.

robert said...
Robert

Q1-

In Sonsino’s book page 8, he says, “In many areas, Kabbalah has even reached the masses: In Tel Aviv, the Kabbalah Learning Center has a display in the central bus station.” I first want to clarify that I know little about Jewish Kabbalah and actually look forward towards learning more about this in R 532. My question is how open can our movement be to the Kabbalah when very few of our leaders know anything about it? Most MJ Rabbi’s that I have spoken to seem afraid of it (should they?) Christians seem to get their ideologies of Kabbalah from the media and usually say it’s demonic. The reports that I hear from those serving in Israel is that many young Israelis are drawn to this movement and the fruit of it is very crass, sinful and far from a respectable Judaism. America seems to have a “McDonalized” version of Kabbalah, so how is our Americanized Kabbalah different from that in Israel? I was told by a Chabad-Lubavitch that true Kabbalah is not really exposed to the public, but rather carried down orally Dor L’ Dor? 



Kabbalah is Jewish esoteric (off the beaten path, known only to the initiated, thus, secret) speculative theologizing about spiritual knowledge, power and creation. As such, it traverses concerns normally found in the area of magic—which also concerns the interfacing of knowledge and power. However, it is simplistic to simply say that kabbalah is Jewish magic. It would be like simply saying that a Christian interested in knowing more about God so he can experience more of the flow of God’s power is simply involved in Christian magic. It is hamfisted, overgeneralized thinking.

Still, there are many who relate to Kabbalah in a magical way—as a means of accessing and controlling spiritual power. These people are immature, wrong, and “cruising for a bruising”—apt to get into trouble.

In the more seasoned and responsible of Jewish circles, Kabbalah is an area of study reserved for those with a deep knowledge of, experience in, and devotion to the pathways of Torah holiness. It is an area that only the mature are allowed to investigate—persons whose character guarantees they are not seeking to play with fire.

As speculative theology, Kabbalah is useful as material to inform Messianic Jewish theological constructs, because it gives us Jewish ways rooted in Torah of speaking about the nature of God, Creation and Messiah. Mark Kinzer will be teaching on some of this in our courses of study.

But the kinds of things done at the Kabbalah Center or available on the bookshelves in popular bookstores should be avoided—they are pandering to people’s craving for spiritual secrets and access to power apart from deep moral and spiritual commitments appropriate to a Torah life—the latter must be the foundation for the study and assessment of Kabbalistic writings.


Robert’s 
Q2-

In Lecture 3.2 you stated, “We need to be careful not to restrict people who say – I really sensed G-d in a sunset… or a mother sensing God in a birth.” You then asked if this was to be rated 1st or 2nd rate, and that Providence is Hashem in the middle of ordinary circumstances. I certainly agree that we should not demean these experiences; I personally have had quite a few. But my question is, isn’t this type of “awe” similar to that of the charismatic movement? A common event in our congregation is to have a non-Jew with a Pentecostal background come in and say, “G-d is saying this, or I witnessed gold dust in my bedroom so forth and so on. Where do we draw the line to where experiencing G-d doesn’t become a “Woodstock” experience? It seems that the Reconstructionist perspective of, “enriching the individual emotionally and intellectually filling him/her with a sense of great awe,” is quite similar to the Charismatic experience?


Thanks for your question: What I was advocating was for us to not despise what is normally called “General revelation,” the kind of thing Paul speaks of in Romans one, of God’s eternal power and deity being clearly perceived in the things he has made. When a woman wonders at the birth process, or someone wonders at a sunset or the beauty of music, this is general revelation—and it is a genuine pathway to knowledge. It is general revelation—that kind which is available to everyone—through ordinary experiences. The kinds of charismatic/Pentecostal testimonies you mention (people claiming to have found gold dust in their room, seeing Jesus in the blender, ete.) are NOT this. Here people are claiming special revelation through out of the ordinary experiences, and in some manner, in my view, are often seeking to be regarded as special for having had such “revelations.” For the most part this is to spirituality what cotton candy is to nutrition. It is not healthy and ought not to be merchandised in our congregations.

Finally, for today, I think some of our comments here are based on a misunderstanding of Roz Kinzer’s position on charismatic experience. She very much values the charismatic experiences she had in her formative years, and we should not disparage such either. Thesse matters warrant further discussion—and more thought from me before I interact with your questions. Hopefully, tomorrow.

Until then—shalom,

9 comments:

Paul Kugelman Jr said...

R. Dauermann,

I immediately identified with your proposed definition of Holiness. But your proposed definition of Spirituality caught me off guard and required me to examine my notions about this concept. And while doing so, it occurred to me that I had missed it - as you said, spirituality is a process, a method of pressing in to holiness as you defined it. Until today I viewed spirituality as a state of being that was never really reached (except perhaps momentarily) but always sought.

Getting back to the interrelationship of these concepts, under your proposed definitions as I understand them, they do not overlap at all; they are distinct concepts yet inexorably tied. Spirituality is the path to Holiness.

Derek Leman said...

Rabbi D:

I would like to add a note of caution about Kabbalah. I am no expert either, but I do know the Lurianic myth of God withdrawing and having part of his energy trapped in vessels. I understand that the Lurianic version of Tikkun Olam is similar to Process Theology in that God is limited and humans must help make up what God lacks. I do know that Eastern concepts such as reincarnation are part of Kabbalah. Therefore, I do not find it helpful for our practice as a system of thought. It is a false system, contrary to Torah. That said, practices of contemplation and meditation and seeking the higher emanations of God's glory are all good. But Kabbalah is not like halakhah, something we must consider authoritative.

Derek

Robert said...

Robert

Response To Paul’s question on holiness:

R. Stuart’s proposed definition of holiness had me pause for the day yesterday, and then I saw Paul’s response which made me pause a bit more. Truly this definition seems acceptable especially within the context of this class. The offering oneself as a living sacrifice and the striking metaphor of the animal sacrifices brought a clearer picture of the true temple worship desired as described in Romans 12. This made me ponder upon the grace (chesed/loving kindness) of G-d. I see spirituality as a place where G-d’s grace joins in with the human response. The chesed of G-d is not only a gift, but a grave responsibility and pursuit.

Paul Kugelman Jr said...

Robert:

You said, "The chesed of G-d is not only a gift, but a grave responsibility and pursuit." I agree that G-d's chesed is a gift and a grave responsibility in that it is not license to behave however we may choose. But how do we pursue G-d's chesed? My thinking has been that it is something that I trust He extends to me regardless of my behavior and something that cannot be obtained. I am interested in your thoughts. Thanks.

Robert said...

Robert

Paul

I agree, that chesed is not and never will be a license to sin. In fact Chesed does what we can’t possibly do. I see chesed as what frees us from sin as it pronounces us righteous. But we need to cooperate with the chesed of G-d, believing and receiving empowerment to shuv from our sins and enter into his fullness.

How do we pursue G-d’s chesed? By emunah which is our human response. I see chesed similar to the blood of Yeshua = it washes us in the beginning continues to wash us in this hour, and so also the chesed that helped us in the past continues to help us in the present. I hope I answered your question, if I seem too broad in my response it may be due to my definition of chesed = unmerited favor, divine ability/enablement, kindness and supernatural help.

Unknown said...

I already posted this on the wrong day, so here it is again

In response to R. Stuart’s definition of Holiness:

“Holiness is presenting oneself as a living sacrifice to Hashem in all ways always”

My ingrained definition of Holiness has always been the level of separation we have TO God and AWAY from the world. When I look at your definition R. Stuart I can relate to the offering part, the living sacrifice. We say, “We want to be Holy, we want to be Holy.” And what we are really saying to God is, please burn us up. God did this to Aaron’s sons when they brought Him strange fire; He consumed them. So when we purpose in our hearts to be Holy, we really are setting ourselves up to be radically changed. Most people don’t actually want this, they just want to be Holy because everyone else wants to be Holy, and the standard norm is to want to be Holy. But real holiness IS attainable through God’s grace, but it certainly is not easy, and it certainly requires our heartfelt and consistent decision.

What did Paul say in Romans Ch. 12, “Therefore I urge you brothers in view of God’s mercy to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God – this is your spiritual (or reasonable) act of worship.” We say that we want to do this, but Paul continues his exhortation by saying, “Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is – His good, pleasing and perfect will.” - So on the one hand we need to purpose in our hearts to be Holy (whatever definition of it we may have), while at the same time resisting the way the world does things.

So again I would define holiness as
Drawing near to God, and letting Him consume you (change, mold, etc.) in the same proportion that you remove yourself from the way of the world.

JOHN said...

Echoing Derek's comments and R.Staurt's reply to the question of Kabbalah:
As a new movement all our actions,theology,practices must be under tight scrutiny.This is normal and unavoidable ,and helps to guarantee that we don't just drift with any wind that comes our way.
Delving into the practices of Kabbalah could be construed the wrong way by many folks already worried about our involvement in rabbinical oral tradition and our attempts at linkage with the wider Jewish community.
I would imagine ,however,that it's a lot of hype about nothing really so special.I mean,the revealations according to some "christian mystics" are fairly wierd..and then there's all that buisness about stautes crying,"sweating blood",rocking??..not to mention healings occuring through touching alabaster objects,etc,etc..in the mainstream christian tradition.
The same guidelines must,I feel,hold for the two:
1.What does scriture say about it? (revelations could inform us that we can expect visions,as does Rav Saul..but notice his exhortations on anything secretive or magical!!!)
Someone once told me that the disciples on the road to Emmaus were in a "mystical trance" which is why they never recognised Yeshua,and proves that Kabbalahic practice is endorsed in scriture....but it seems to me a little far fetched!
2.Does it help church UNITY!
Remember that we straddle two worlds:The wider church community and the (hopefully)Jewish community..which together make up the body of Christ.If we practice something that will hurt the other members yet doesn't neccessarily bring us into closer relationships with our Christian brothers on the one hand and our Jewish members on the other,I can't really see the worth in pursuing it!

JOHN said...

Echoing Derek's comments and R.Staurt's reply to the question of Kabbalah:
As a new movement all our actions,theology,practices must be under tight scrutiny.This is normal and unavoidable ,and helps to guarantee that we don't just drift with any wind that comes our way.
Delving into the practices of Kabbalah could be construed the wrong way by many folks already worried about our involvement in rabbinical oral tradition and our attempts at linkage with the wider Jewish community.
I would imagine ,however,that it's a lot of hype about nothing really so special.I mean,the revealations according to some "christian mystics" are fairly wierd..and then there's all that buisness about stautes crying,"sweating blood",rocking??..not to mention healings occuring through touching alabaster objects,etc,etc..in the mainstream christian tradition.
The same guidelines must,I feel,hold for the two:
1.What does scriture say about it? (revelations could inform us that we can expect visions,as does Rav Saul..but notice his exhortations on anything secretive or magical!!!)
Someone once told me that the disciples on the road to Emmaus were in a "mystical trance" which is why they never recognised Yeshua,and proves that Kabbalahic practice is endorsed in scriture....but it seems to me a little far fetched!
2.Does it help church UNITY!
Remember that we straddle two worlds:The wider church community and the (hopefully)Jewish community..which together make up the body of Christ.If we practice something that will hurt the other members yet doesn't neccessarily bring us into closer relationships with our Christian brothers on the one hand and our Jewish members on the other,I can't really see the worth in pursuing it!

JOHN said...

A brief comment on Robert's question and R staurt's reply on the subject of "awe/experiences"

I've heard more and more often recently this experience of "golddust falling from the ceiling,etc" Lately,it's become gold feathers???!!
Let's all keep focused on Yeshua if you please!!His death and resurrection...wasn't that enough for us!!
I'm going really slow with the Herschel book,It's so rich,but dense and just a bit to difficult for me at the moment.However,I think he writes a great chapter on the "awe" the "sublime"....that births our sense of wonder and in the end leads us to the "I am whoI am"